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Avoiding the Puddle Episode #3 featuring Markman!

July 1, 2010

Welcome back to yet another great episode of “Avoiding the Puddle!” Aris and MYK kick it off with a review of the Hori Premium VLX real arcade stick, then they break down tournament nerves in three categories. After this segment special guest Mr.Wizard from and comes onto to the show to give us a special announcement about Tekken at Evolution 2010, the biggest fighting game tournament in America! After the announcement, Markman from comes onto the show to give us some special insight of all the hands-on experience he has in the world of making the widely popular Madcatz Tournament Edition Fight Sticks and more!

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29 Comments leave one →
  1. yup yup permalink
    July 1, 2010 6:39 pm

    So it probably will not be TTT2 i’m so happy to hear that. Just can’t imagine how to realize tag system in new tekkens will walls and stuff.

    -You can learn a lot in tournaments.
    -Not from me)

  2. QDogg permalink
    July 1, 2010 7:31 pm

    Another great podcast! An excellent discussion on tourney nerves and tourney mentality. You just gotta embrace it.

    See you next weekend bro at Evo2K10.

  3. pinnochio permalink
    July 1, 2010 7:49 pm

    very good podcast. Aris did a great job talking about tournament nerves. I’ve never heard such a great discussion about tournament nerves.

  4. 725 permalink
    July 2, 2010 10:28 am

    tekken vs street fighter?

  5. July 2, 2010 10:28 am

    Very entertaining a podcast.

  6. RiD' permalink
    July 2, 2010 1:10 pm

    Very good podcast again!
    Can’t wait for the next.

    Oh and @Aris :
    Could you possibly bring Mr. NAPS onto the show?
    Or at least some Bryan talk?
    That would be awesome!

    @MYK Any information about the next LUYG Episode?Been a while….

  7. XelNaga permalink
    July 2, 2010 6:15 pm

    Nice interview. Good topic to cover next time: Would a show like Tekken Crash be successful here in the US, but have it focus on say 2 or 3 fighting games? And if so, what would the games be besides Tekken?

  8. lingmassacre permalink
    July 3, 2010 9:11 pm

    Good episode, everything flowed quite nicely. Liked how the opening and the interviews were closely connected.

  9. Arcade Joyphallic permalink
    July 4, 2010 12:42 pm

    I hope Mad Catz works on the design of their SE stick because those things are junk. Hori’s cheap sticks (EX2, Fighting Stick 3) are junk, too, but they aren’t quite as bad. The buttons are prone to failure, but the joysticks are really solid. In comparison, everything on the SE is prone to failure. Either drop the product line entirely or remove all of the garbage hardware, knock $20 off the price and sell it as a shell with a PCB. The modding community would eat it up.

    In regard to the short discussion you guys had about American vs. Japanese sticks, they both have their pluses and minuses. From a Street Fighter perspective, I prefer Japanese sticks with a square gate for charge characters and American sticks for everything else. For Tekken, I don’t really care.

    My problem with Japanese sticks is that they feel flimsy. When the tiny springs start to wear in, they lose all feeling and register the slightest bit of movement. They have no resistance, which I guess some people consider a plus, but I prefer the resistance you get from a Eurostick (non-bootleg Happ Comp).

    If Mad Catz ever decides to put out an American TE stick, I hope they use a 3/4″ panel. A Eurostick mounted on a 1/2″ panel has too much height. The extra 1/4″ brings it closer to Sanwa and Seimitsu height, which is just about perfect for a fighting stick. Also, ditch the Viewlix layout. I’ve hated that shit ever since Sega Astro City. It’s fucking awful if you like to rest your pinky on hard kick. Bring the kick buttons vertically in line with the punch buttons and rotate the entire layout roughly 20 degrees clockwise on either hard kick or medium kick (can’t remember exactly how I do it at the moment). That’s the shit right there – way more ergonomic than Viewlix or Astro City.

  10. July 4, 2010 8:56 pm

    I personally think you should just buy a custom stick..instead of a madcatz, since you sound picky on button layouts.

    • Arcade Joyphallic permalink
      July 5, 2010 10:29 am

      I’m a custom stick builder, but I’d still like to see some variety in the commercial stick market. Right now, they’re all emulating the same layout. Hori wasn’t afraid to experiment in the ’90s, but now everything is Viewlix.

      I also hope Happ buttons and Eurosticks make a comeback. I put convex Happ buttons in a stick that I built 5 years ago and they still feel like brand new. Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons just don’t have that level of durability. I also like how you can rest your finger on a Happ button without registering inputs. That feather light Japanese shit can get annoying after a while.

      People really need to give American parts (made in China) a chance again. I think this Sanwa fad has more to do with Japan worship than anything else – from a Street Fighter perspective, at least. American players really need to get out of the mindset that they NEED to have Sanwa parts in a Viewlix layout just because everyone else does.

  11. July 5, 2010 12:56 am

    Also, the SE I’ve explained many times elsewhere.

    But look at the Tatsunoko VS Capcom SE stick to see my reply on the parts. And I’d like to make it known, that we’ve probably only had less than 5 defective returns on every TVC stick we’ve sold. A few of them were user error lol.

    Yeah. We’ve addressed the issue with the parts. To make it a long story short, we sat down and actually engineered new parts from the ground up to give it a new feel (it’s a mix between a JLF and LS-32 for the stick) and the buttons are more like Seimitsu but plunge in like Sanwa’s.

  12. 3D God permalink
    July 5, 2010 3:22 am

    tekken graphic is ass. VF got much better graphic and fan service. tekken seriously need to step it up in the graphic level. just compare the graphic of tekken 6 and VF5 and you’ll see that anyone with good taste would prefer VF5.

    • mylvis permalink
      July 5, 2010 5:43 am

      what have you been smoking dude

  13. Pinnochio permalink
    July 5, 2010 9:22 am

    Yo Aris, just curious but what microphone do you use?

  14. PhantomXD permalink
    July 5, 2010 10:46 am

    when MYK an Aris were talking about when people don’t go to tournaments because a certain person is entering, i used to be just like that. When FightingGM or NYC FAB would enter i wouldn’t go because I know I was going to lose. But now I’m trying to get pass that now and now I’m starting to enter (online only for now)tournaments now and I feel that I’m getting better and my game is improving.

  15. 3D God permalink
    July 5, 2010 2:37 pm

    look at these graphic and tell me tekken’s is better:

  16. funkpanda permalink
    July 5, 2010 5:37 pm

    Hey, for the next show. Can you interview someone whose like NOT necessarily someone whose already been on a billion other podcasts?

    I’ve listened to markman like 3 times now on different shows…

    • July 5, 2010 8:37 pm

      I’m sorry 😦

    • Suiken!! permalink
      July 5, 2010 8:59 pm

      I’m glad you we’re able to listen to him 3x, who do you want to hear from? maybe post up a suggestion.

    • Aris permalink
      July 5, 2010 10:26 pm

      Important shit is happening right now that MarkMan is heavily involved with. Just as when a new movie comes out, the star of the film goes on multiple talk shows, MarkMan was very welcomed on the show. Also, many of the topics covered on this interview were not talked about anywhere else. Also, I am responsible for selecting guests and I do what i want.

  17. David permalink
    July 6, 2010 7:59 am

    Awesome podcast.

    I’m not usually one of those morons who posts requests, but any chance of interviewing Lingmassacre? I think he would be a very interesting guest.

  18. Nemesis-Kanden permalink
    July 6, 2010 11:52 am

    I’m really loving these, please keep it up.

  19. Mike permalink
    July 7, 2010 9:48 am

    hope they would improve the training, Tekken 5 dr for psp had a good combo training section, wish they kept that in Tekken 6 and Tekken 6 BR

  20. Neels permalink
    July 9, 2010 4:47 am

    It’s ironic that the man responsible for Tekken’s balancing plays VF. He could learn a thing or 2 about balance from playing that game. Surprised Markman’s favourite stick is the Namco, apart from it having an incline and being durable and weighty for it’s size I never saw anything special about it. The VSHG is my favourite, if it didn’t have minor problems with Namco games and was more widely available it’d get more recognition. Would like to hear more about why some regard Korean sticks to be better for Tekken and 3d fighters in general.

    It was a very good listen, looking forward to the next one. Post Evo it should be really interesting.

  21. July 11, 2010 9:32 pm

    Keep posting stuff like this i really like it

  22. emt training permalink
    July 16, 2010 5:48 am

    My cousin recommended this blog and she was totally right keep up the fantastic work!


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